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Moon activity feedback request

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:05 pm
by garycmartin
I recently posted a new activity called Moon, available on the wiki at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Moon It is a v1 release, but will show current real-time Moon phase and eclipse information (you can watch it change blood red in a day or so if you can't get to watch the next eclipse for real).

I'm aware that the information presented on the left of the screen is likely to be too advanced for the XOs target demographic, but I would like to get some feedback from educators (or interested students) as to the level of detail that would be useful, before I start to simplify the content.

My plan at the moment is to split the information panel in two, and have a few clear/key information texts in one half, and a mini-calendar view in the other so a range of phases can be seen at one time.

Please feel free to add you feedback to the bottom of the Moon wiki page, or reply here.

Re: Moon activity feedback request

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:58 am
by Gleth
Rather than just simplifying the content, how about having each section hidable? That way the user could see the information they wanted but would have access to the full set should they need it.

Also the value as a learning tool would be increased by keeping the full set of informtion, but maybe have each title as a clickable link that would show a definition of the terms used? I understand what 'lunation' is, for example, but another might not. However rather than hiding the lunation section having a pop-up definition/explaination of what lunation is would, to me anyway, enhance the activities learning side.

...and while it may seem a little silly, a Night Vision mode where the display is in red so it could be used outside without effecting a user's night vision would be something I think would be cool :-)

It's a great activity you made, thank you.

edit... Oops, I forgot to add that having the timezone shown, and changable, might be a good idea. I'm in GMT, so the activity's times are right for me, but others might find having local time more intuititive.

Have Fun,
Gleth

Re: Moon activity feedback request

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:37 pm
by garycmartin
Gleth wrote:Rather than just simplifying the content, how about having each section hidable? That way the user could see the information they wanted but would have access to the full set should they need it.


Thanks Gleth, I'll investigate a simple tree view where you could fold away sections. This might also allow including additional data that wouldn't otherwise fit in the information area (would need to allow scroll bar if too much was displayed at once). Maybe break out the information into several sections for folding/hiding, basic/advanced/....

Gleth wrote:Also the value as a learning tool would be increased by keeping the full set of informtion, but maybe have each title as a clickable link that would show a definition of the terms used?


I'm currently planing mouse over hover hints for this (and Lunar feature naming over the main image), I'll need to test how flexible GTK's mouse overs are, I'll probably need at least a sentence or two for a terms description. Kind'a worried about adding too much text bloat - all this has to get translated into umpteen different languages to be useful...

Gleth wrote:edit... Oops, I forgot to add that having the timezone shown, and changable, might be a good idea. I'm in GMT, so the activity's times are right for me, but others might find having local time more intuititive.


Well spotted, I'd thought that I'd already dealt with that, however I hadn't properly tested different time zones. If you go download & try new the Moon v2 activity you'll see it displays all times corrected for your local time zone.

Thanks for the feedback!

...Oh, and it's cloudy here in the UK just now, so looks like I'll have to watch my own XO simulation of the eclipse :roll:

Re: Moon activity feedback request

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:00 am
by KayTi
...Oh, and it's cloudy here in the UK just now, so looks like I'll have to watch my own XO simulation of the eclipse


Oh that's too bad! Here in the midwest US it was remarkable, I don't remember ever seeing anything like it. I watched for a few minutes until the icy chill of reality dragged me back indoors.

I'll take a look at your moon app soon, and ask my son's 1st grade teacher what kinds of information they present on the moon. A first grade teacher is a useful resource to have, as that is often a good entry-point to the complexity of content. If a first-grader can understand it, then it's a good fit for the XO, or so goes my line of thinking. ;)

Re: Moon activity feedback request

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:44 am
by Gleth
garycmartin wrote:Thanks for the feedback!

...Oh, and it's cloudy here in the UK just now, so looks like I'll have to watch my own XO simulation of the eclipse :roll:


Glad to help . . . It was cloudy and wet in Ireland, after almost a week of ok skies too, so your activity was the only way to see anything :-)

Time to go play with V2