[OLPC library] [Localization] Lozalization of Library and co

[Arjun Sarwal]

We should copy the localization people on this thread (cc added)

On Jan 16, 2008 12:16 PM, Seth Woodworth <seth@isforinsects.com (seth@isforinsects.com)> wrote:

We're going to be making a pretty big push for content and content translation in the next few weeks. I would imagine that the library is already in pootle in some form or another, although I could be mistaken.

I'm pleased to meet you and glad you would like to help out.


On Jan 16, 2008 2:07 AM, Alexander Todorov < alexx.todorov@gmail.com (alexx.todorov@gmail.com)> wrote:

Hello,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Library links to PO files under
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Localization/Library

Can we put these files in Pootle and move away from using the wiki for
localization?

Another question:
how do I start the library activity? It says that it's part of Browse
right now. (What I'm tryin gto do is to realize how it works and how I
can lozalize to my language and contribute the work to the project).

Thanks,
Alexander.
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[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

Hi,

On Jan 16, 2008 9:44 PM, Arjun Sarwal <arjun@laptop.org> wrote:

We should copy the localization people on this thread (cc added)

On Jan 16, 2008 12:16 PM, Seth Woodworth <seth@isforinsects.com> wrote:

We're going to be making a pretty big push for content and content

translation in the next few weeks. I would imagine that the library is
already in pootle in some form or another, although I could be mistaken.

Unfortunately, we do not have any content related stuff in Pootle
right now (except for the Packaging strings).
Please let me know what I can do to make push for content translation
easier for you guys - I would be more than happy to help here .

Cheers,
Sayamindu

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[sj]

On Jan 19, 2008 2:40 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

On Jan 16, 2008 9:44 PM, Arjun Sarwal <arjun@laptop.org> wrote:

We should copy the localization people on this thread (cc added)

On Jan 16, 2008 12:16 PM, Seth Woodworth <seth@isforinsects.com> wrote:

We're going to be making a pretty big push for content and content

translation in the next few weeks. I would imagine that the library is
already in pootle in some form or another, although I could be mistaken.

Unfortunately, we do not have any content related stuff in Pootle
right now (except for the Packaging strings).
Please let me know what I can do to make push for content translation
easier for you guys - I would be more than happy to help here .

Cheers,
Sayamindu

Super. I assigned #4530 to you, to start I'll get you po files
for the new bundled collections when their po files are made. SJ
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[Carol Lerche]

Seth, sorry for sending this once to you and then to the list. On reflection I felt it should go to the list as well.

Truly the wiki is NOT the best way to organize content such as the activities page.

Yes, the countries will be the arbiters of taste as to what is shipped on each of their xo's but what about the next step?

Here are examples of completely different way to organize this type of content (not very beautiful but quite a lot more functional than just a list):

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=search

or

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search

I think we need a search by age/grade level, subject matter, localization, countries using, minimum build requirement, maturity/bugginess, tag (where an app could have multiple tags that were optional and possibly pejorative!)

The current activity page is pretty hard to use -- in the computer science/database world I think we could term it a "heap".

Regards,

Carol

[isforinsects]

We need a system to categorize our data like in your links Carol, and I agree that the current state of the wiki is pretty bad. But if you look at projects like Wiki-Commons, or free-reading, a wiki *can* be a lot better organized. We just don't have enough dedicated and informed people to fix the wiki. Information doesn't spread well yet.

On Jan 19, 2008 6:04 PM, Carol Lerche <cafl@msbit.com (cafl@msbit.com)> wrote:

Seth, sorry for sending this once to you and then to the list. On reflection I felt it should go to the list as well.

Truly the wiki is NOT the best way to organize content such as the activities page.

Yes, the countries will be the arbiters of taste as to what is shipped on each of their xo's but what about the next step?


Here are examples of completely different way to organize this type of content (not very beautiful but quite a lot more functional than just a list):

http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=search

or

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search


I think we need a search by age/grade level, subject matter, localization, countries using, minimum build requirement, maturity/bugginess, tag (where an app could have multiple tags that were optional and possibly pejorative!)


The current activity page is pretty hard to use -- in the computer science/database world I think we could term it a "heap".

Regards,

Carol





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On Jan 20, 2008 2:04 AM, Carol Lerche <cafl@msbit.com (cafl@msbit.com)> wrote:

Truly the wiki is NOT the best way to organize content such as the activities page.
I think we need a search by age/grade level, subject matter, localization, countries using, minimum build requirement, maturity/bugginess, tag (where an app could have multiple tags that were optional and possibly pejorative!)

There are perfectly fine and useable ways to do this using the current MediaWiki software, it may just need a few extentions.

The current activity page is pretty hard to use -- in the computer science/database world I think we could term it a "heap".

Agreed. If someone could figure out how wikipedia does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software#General_Information , that sort of thing would work well on the activities page.

-ffm

[Carol Lerche]

The problem with the page you reference is that it is static. If I go to look for a selection of a large collection, I can't ask that only a pertinent subset be shown. One possibility is that the entire activity set be left in the wiki and the dev site be used to host a more dynamic, database backed implementation, which no doubt Trak is another instance of.

There are perfectly fine and useable ways to do this using the current MediaWiki software, it may just need a few extentions.

The current activity page is pretty hard to use -- in the computer science/database world I think we could term it a "heap".

Agreed. If someone could figure out how wikipedia does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software#General_Information , that sort of thing would work well on the activities page.

-ffm

[KayTi]

Looks like just a special kind of wiki class - from that page:

class="wikitable sortable"

So - any wikihackers out there? I can generate a first pass of content (for the Activities page - it's something I've been thinking about and watching the Doom discussion on...) in an Excel spreadsheet, but I doubt I can put it into a carefully formatted wiki page without making a bunch of embarassingly large errors.

There is probably a further layer involved in presenting activities to potential government buyers of OLPC, but this would be a good start.