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Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:45 pm

Hi,

I'm new to the board so I apologize if this has been discussed before. We have a home wireless network already established. We are Qwest users with an Actiontec Wireless Modem and Gateway. We have an established 64 bit WEP key and several computers are already authenticated using that key. It doesn't look like you can enter a 64 bit passcode into the XO. What's the suggestion here? Do I change to a 128 bit key on the Actiontec and change passcodes for all my other computers? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby ektoric » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:14 pm

According to wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy, "Standard 64-bit WEP uses a 40 bit key (also known as WEP-40)". Try using the XO in 40bit mode.
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:47 pm

Thanks for the advice but 40 bit didn't work. We have a couple of pc's and a Mac that can both connect to the network so we know it's really an issue with just the XO's connectivity. Is there anything else to try before we switch our router to a 128 bit key (and update all other devices as well)? :cry:
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby Nayantara » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:57 pm

bgeraght wrote:Thanks for the advice but 40 bit didn't work. We have a couple of pc's and a Mac that can both connect to the network so we know it's really an issue with just the XO's connectivity. Is there anything else to try before we switch our router to a 128 bit key (and update all other devices as well)? :cry:

Here are somethings you can try:
Try selecting key type as 128 bit hex (even though it is actually 64 bit) and specify authentication type as open system.

Note: for WEP 64 it is a 10 digit HEX number and for WEP 128 it is a 26 digit HEX number

Delete the /home/olpc/.sugar/default/nm/networks.cgf file and try again.

Check with the list of compatible Wireless Access Points if yours is (in-)compatible, here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wireless_Access_Point_Compatibility

Some info. on not using WEP here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/New_Users#64_bit_key
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:13 pm

Hi, still no luck.

1) I re-entered the password as 128 bit hex and it didn't work.

2) Will try and delete the .cfg file next. Looking for info on how to access the file system.

3) We have an Actiontec GT701-WG Modem which is a pretty common modem for Qwest users. It's not listed one way or the other on the chart. I don't think this is a modem issue right now.

Any other suggestions?
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:35 pm

ok, found the terminal button (sorry it wasn't obvious), and deleted the networks.cfg file. I rebooted and , although there was a small delay in my home network displaying on the available list, entered my password. Didn't work when I uses the default setting of 'Passphrase (128-bit)' or 'Hex (40/128-bit)'. Any thing else I can try?

Thanks,
Barry
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:39 pm

Hi, we're still stuck with the same issue from the last post. Is there anything else we can try?
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby brisalta » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:31 pm

Have you tried rebooting your Actiontec GT701-WG Modem ?
Do you have MAC filtering turned on in the modem?
Is there anything else setup in the modem that could be stopping connectivity?
I found the modem's documentation and FAQ here http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/modems/gt701/index.html?option=advanced
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:41 pm

Have you tried rebooting your Actiontec GT701-WG Modem ? Yes, doesn't have any effect
Do you have MAC filtering turned on in the modem? no
Is there anything else setup in the modem that could be stopping connectivity? no, we have a Mac and another PC currently accessing the wireless network. We have had visitors connect their laptops with the appropriate WEP key. It's only the XO that can't connect. Any other ideas?
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby brisalta » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:35 pm

Which channel is the wireless modem transmitting on?
Is it channel 1, 6 or 11 ? Those are the recommended channels.
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:06 pm

It was broadcasting on channel 9. I updated to channel 6 with no effect. The problem doesn't seem to be one of signal strength but matching the encription of the XO to the modem. The modem recommends a 64 bit key. This is a 10 digit number for the WEP key in the modem (and the other household pc's). The XO can't accept a 10 digit number for the 40 bit/ascii encryption (ok button only adds up with spaces added). Any other ideas?
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby brisalta » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:22 pm

bgeraght wrote:It was broadcasting on channel 9. I updated to channel 6 with no effect. The problem doesn't seem to be one of signal strength but matching the encription of the XO to the modem. The modem recommends a 64 bit key. This is a 10 digit number for the WEP key in the modem (and the other household pc's). The XO can't accept a 10 digit number for the 40 bit/ascii encryption (ok button only adds up with spaces added). Any other ideas?


Take a look at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#What_is_the_difference_between_a_key_and_a_passphrase.3F It explains difference between pass phrase and hex key. Has a link to an online pass phrase to hex key converter.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:32 am

Thanks for all the help, btw. Here's the steps I took. For a passcode of '1234567890', for example, it converts to EB6C4179C0A7C82CC2828C1E63. I entered that longer string as the 40/128 bit hex passcode (open system) on the XO. Still not connecting. Did I do that right?
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby ektoric » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:39 am

bgeraght wrote:Thanks for all the help, btw. Here's the steps I took. For a passcode of '1234567890', for example, it converts to EB6C4179C0A7C82CC2828C1E63. I entered that longer string as the 40/128 bit hex passcode (open system) on the XO. Still not connecting. Did I do that right?

I've decided to tackle this problem in earnist. I don't have a "64-bit wep" router, so I can't really try this on my end and let you know my findings. So, I hope you don't mind us going back and forth a few times as we try different things...

# How many digits is your key?
# Does the key you would normally type in consist of numbers 0-9 and letters a-f only? Or do they contain other characters?

I have no idea if we can make sugar take a "64bit" key, but it may be possible to hack the config file and put in the key string directly into there.
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Re: Any way to use 64 bit WEP Key with XO?

Postby bgeraght » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:05 pm

it's a 10 digit key, all numbers. Thanks again.
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