[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby mburns » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:18 pm

This thread is meant to talk about possible paths the community forum can take (with regards to olpchelp.org, and other 3rd-party communities that are growing) and how best to get us from here to there. The conversation is half-started, so I ask the Peter--admin at olpchelp.org--and the Support Gang to pick up where we've left off, catching the community up to speed where possible. We have been talking about the potential merging of the 2 forum sites. From this, a request to replace the software infrastructure has been raised, and what features can and cannot be supported with that change. It isn't a perfect solution, but at least we can get a larger pool of input.

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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby mburns » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:09 am

Hi Peter. Thanks for posting your thoughts here. I've gone ahead and added some of my thoughts inline.

On Jan 10, 2008 11:36 PM, Harrison - Schaaffe < peter.harrison@bigfoot.com (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)> wrote:

It's good to hear servers can be donated.

If ads can be used to donate a token sum to laptop.org, I think it should be considered, even if they are only partially effective. I agree that horizontal real estate can be an issue on the XO, but ads oriented horizontally on the page should be OK. A final decision on this can be delayed till after the union is completed. Now is really not the time.



If users don't mind, I don't either. I'm tending towards a "too little to bother" end of the argument. Am curious to hear what others think...

This does bring up creating a process going forward on making decisions that affect the community. There needs to be an arbitration process or else flame wars can easily erupt to the detriment of the group. Please take a look at this thread http://www.olpchelp.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54. Change will a part of constant debates and figuring out an easy and fair way to implement it, while also being nimble, will be really important. I think time should be spent to discuss such a process.



Agreed. This is a wonderful idea, whether we adopt it verbatim or tweak the general policy, having a formal way to account for and request change is great.

I agree vBulletin isn't open source and is therefore against many principles of the philosophy. I tried running forums on many different platforms, phpBB being one, but was left wanting. It was the management features of vBulletin that make it really attractive.

Using the mass mailing feature of phpBB chokes at more than about 1000 users. It just stops sending. I tried integration with packages like phplist, but it wasn't seamless.

Modifications to phpBB require you to edit PHP template files directly in the OS. Updates in any forum software package are common, often overwriting PHP modifications.



For those just joining at home, the OLPC support forum currently uses phpBB version 2 (there is a version 3) for its unique support of a script called mail2forum. This was a neat design requirement in December, now after a good month of use, we can evaluate how helpful it has proven to be. The usefulness of mail2forum really ought to be a separate thread (trying to keep things manageable!). We can assume it is not a deal breaker for the time being. I would hold that there is not an immediate need change forum packages, but if we can find a better way to peel an apple...

The phpBB group actually put together a feature comparison of version 3 with, among other, vbulletin: http://www.phpbb.com/about/features/compare.php

OLPC has taken a fairly strong open source stance, and the Support-Gang volunteers have (at least initially) echoed their interesting in keeping with that license. Frankly, I want the growing XO hackers to be able to run local forums if they want, and having the same (open, shareable) codebase can help us facilitate that.


The way phpBB handles SPAM is another feature that needed improvement. I recently noticed that within the month of December 2006, spammers using various email addresses from cashette.com and mail.com were signing up, staying dormant and then spamming the forums a few months later.


This was before I installed the reCAPTCHA (thanks, Phil!) tech from the great guys at the Internet Archive for the registration and the anonymous post pages. Since then, we have had no SPAM since.

The CAPTCHA is actually part of the IA's program to digitize books (which is why you transcribe two words, one they know for sure and one they don't!). This pool of digitized books are then made accessible for free, and could even be among the books included on the School Servers. The cleverness of the design alone was worth adding it to the site. That it happens to eliminate automated SPAM is just an awesome side benefit. :)


Many popular Linux forums use vBulletin, possibly for these reasons. Linuxquestions.org and Ubuntuforums.org come to mind. Please get Redhat's written opinion on the matter, if it is really important to the group. I don't think it should be from RedHat's perspective given this precedence.



Redhat is not setting the precedence, OLPC is. The use case I mentioned above (XO users setting up their own forum) is a very probably case. Our mission is to support them technically, but also more generally to empower them intellectually. This might be called the View Source Key Requirement. Their ability to read, modify and deploy a version of software that we are familiar with allows us to do both.


I will open up the admin console for olpchelp.org to anyone on this mailing list, based on a list of olpchelp.org usernames (max 5 to make it mangeable) provided by Michael Burns, as long as they promise not to change anything. Take a look and compare vBulletin to phpBB.



Thank you for the account, it will be useful to get a visual tour of vBulletin as well as a technical one. Provided the same look-but-don't-break policy, I'd be more than happy to give you an account to view the olpc.osuosl.org forum for some of the tweaks I've done to the base software.

I think the differences between the two sites can be overcome and a loose alliance isn't necessary. The full integration can be a quick reality.


Agreed. Once we get a plan of attack and decide what, where and how, the actual pull together should be the easy part. :)

I think it is fair to say the Community Support Forum is tier 2 on the OLPC support chain. Tier 1 is faq and related Support documentation on the wiki and the Getting Started guide. Tier 3 is RT tickets and direct follow-up with one of Adam Holt's growing army of Support Gang volunteers. With that in mind, a strong stance toward i18n and scale should be considered. We have hundreds of thousands of donors and users coming online everyday. Especially for languages that the SG volunteers doesn't speak as readily, providing the community tools to become self-sufficient is all the more important. Pootle, Wiki translations and localized forum pages are a good goal to set for countries we deploy to.



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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby mburns » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:17 pm

On Jan 11, 2008 11:54 AM, Harrison - Schaaffe <peter.harrison@bigfoot.com (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)> wrote:
Michael,

I must admit I am very wary of phpBB2, for the reasons I stated, but the feature set with phpBB3 seems greatly improved. I chose vBulletin for the feature set when the open source product at the time couldn't deliver what I needed. I used phpBB2 for about 4 years.


Let me tell you, I've said some not nice things about phpbb2 this month, and don't want to rely on it for more than the time required. A logical upgrade path is welcome, and I would like to learn toward a phpbb3 installation (there is beta work on the mailing list software, which gives us a nice option if we want to take it. The software looks solid without it as well).


I understand the desire to stick with open source for deployment of similar platroms around the world at the local level.

Is there a plan to migrate to phpBB3, or is it in use already? If v3 can do what it promises, then it would be best to upgrade before the forums get too big.



There is not a stated goal, as nearly all of the admin work on the forum has been in my free time, with assistance from good Phil Bordelon and his sysadmin skills to assist along the way. I don't want to flip the switch on the site until we have a full running system (regardless of waht software package we land with. a BETA forum running in tandem for users to stress test with the production system seems like the best way to go. Agreed?


I'm assuming it would import phpBB2 databases, can it import vBulletin natively? If not a vBulletin export to phpBB2 format should be able to be done with a built in utility.


It is very much intended to support upgrades from phpbb2 databases. No experience with vBulletin, but an intermediary step to phpbb2 seems good to me. I've streamlined the backup process, so we can play around with db snapshots and not worry about data loss. Whee!

I'm going to assume phpBB3 will be the planned platform for the unified forum.


I want to echo the concerns overs file-level modifications to install MODs. That really isn't a manageable way to keep software packages up to date, both the phpbb base software as well as updates to the mods. Proper support of MODs/Addons/Extensions is really important in going forward.

Please also send a login for the olpc.osuosl.org forum.



Will get you a login account as soon as possible. Should be tonight at the latest, will try and get it sooner (weird issue, don't ask).


As I said previously I figured that olpchelp.org would have a lot of non-technical members, and it does. As a result of this I chose a theme that would be attractive with limited use of graphics. Bandwidth can be an issue on low speed links, so I have used a 30 day expires header on all images to cache them on the client side. The olpc.osuosl.org forum seems to taken a different approach by stripping out most of the the default phpBB subSilver template images. Is there a phpBB theme out there that is judicial in its use of graphics, attractive and could be easily modified to match the OLPC brand / feel?


The low use of images on the site was a fortunate hack. Few images the better, if only for rendering quirks and page loading, but proper cache option settings is a very good thing, and I think we can find a nice middle ground. As you can tell, I don't have the best artistic touch, so ripping out subSilver images in place of CSS background colors where it made sense was just a look-and-feel hack I threw together.

This is an area in where technology, form and function could come together for the relaunch of the combined forums. For me this is very important in attracting membership. It's never just the technology, it's people and process too.


And not necessarily in that order! :)

I'm glad we're starting to find a path to start going forward on. I can get a BETA phpbb3 install for us to work on with a snapshot of our db at the olpc.osuosl.org server (some unique url will be sent out to interested testers in the community) and we can evaluate how it will work for our combined uses with a hands on approach. Tomorrow looks like a good hacking day. Anyone care to join the fun?



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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby mburns » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:21 pm

Worth throwing out all our options. In my complaining of phpbb3's mod system (via manual core file editting), punbb was pointed out. It has language support (and we can probably connect it to Pootle to get some great mixups going), has some drop-in modules for Administration, at least, and is meant to be lightweight. All good things so far, right?

It has import tools for both vbulletin3 (olpchelp.org) and phpbb2 (olpc.osuosl.org). Worth glancing over. More simple/hackable code is preferable to complex/less hackable code, if we aren't losing any critical features.

http://punbb.org

On Jan 12, 2008 1:33 AM, Harrison - Schaaffe <peter.harrison@bigfoot.com (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have installed a test copy of phpBB3 on a FC8 system at home. The features are improved. They have some importable modules for admin control panel menuing systems, but the rest remain as direct template modifications.


Wonderful. I will be doing the same for a Internet-reachable site this afternoon. Will share the link around...



Agreed.

It now has CAPTCHA built in for registration and guest posting. Hooray! It also has a better admin control panel search utility for finding users, not just by email address.

phpBB3 may be suitable for small installations due to its cost, and the volunteer base to modify its language packs, but it still lacks the ease of modification features of vBulletin. Some simple things like adding a user account from the admin control panel is a modification!

If we were to go with it, I'd strongly recommend minimizing the modifications to the skin/style and header. That way the inevitable upgrades will be much less of a pain to do. There are no phpBB3 styles on phpbb.com, probably because it is so new. The default one, prosilver, would have to modified. http://www.phpbb.com/styles/db/index.php?i=browse&mode=group:phpbb

Does anyone know of anybody who could create a header image with a transparent background for the forums, a gradient tint image and four corners for effects? 10 images max, most of them tiny.

I'd also suggest the following for the new forum:

1. Have email verification as part of the registration process (SPAM)
2. Allow auto subscription to threads by default. This helps to remind people to come back and see if their post has been answered.
3. Don't allow users to edit posts for an indefinite time after they have posted (SPAM)
4. Don't allow users to contact each other by email. (Can send e-mails in phpBB3) It exposes the email address to SPAMmers
5. No guest posting
6. Hide the member list whenever possible (Server load for robots and possible URL SPAM trap)

Put me down as a volunteer for phpBB3 testing on the olpc.osuosl.org test/dev database. Add a forum to it specifically for this thread so feedback and findings can be more easily tracked. How long should the feature evaluation period be? I'll work on creating a phpBB2 export of OLPChelp.org, give me an scp account somewhere and I'll upload it for you to do a test phpBB3 import.




Regards,

Peter & Diana


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To: Harrison - Schaaffe (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)
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On Jan 11, 2008 11:54 AM, Harrison - Schaaffe <peter.harrison@bigfoot.com (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)> wrote:
Michael,

I must admit I am very wary of phpBB2, for the reasons I stated, but the feature set with phpBB3 seems greatly improved. I chose vBulletin for the feature set when the open source product at the time couldn't deliver what I needed. I used phpBB2 for about 4 years.


Let me tell you, I've said some not nice things about phpbb2 this month, and don't want to rely on it for more than the time required. A logical upgrade path is welcome, and I would like to learn toward a phpbb3 installation (there is beta work on the mailing list software, which gives us a nice option if we want to take it. The software looks solid without it as well).



I understand the desire to stick with open source for deployment of similar platroms around the world at the local level.

Is there a plan to migrate to phpBB3, or is it in use already? If v3 can do what it promises, then it would be best to upgrade before the forums get too big.



There is not a stated goal, as nearly all of the admin work on the forum has been in my free time, with assistance from good Phil Bordelon and his sysadmin skills to assist along the way. I don't want to flip the switch on the site until we have a full running system (regardless of waht software package we land with. a BETA forum running in tandem for users to stress test with the production system seems like the best way to go. Agreed?


I'm assuming it would import phpBB2 databases, can it import vBulletin natively? If not a vBulletin export to phpBB2 format should be able to be done with a built in utility.


It is very much intended to support upgrades from phpbb2 databases. No experience with vBulletin, but an intermediary step to phpbb2 seems good to me. I've streamlined the backup process, so we can play around with db snapshots and not worry about data loss. Whee!


I'm going to assume phpBB3 will be the planned platform for the unified forum.


I want to echo the concerns overs file-level modifications to install MODs. That really isn't a manageable way to keep software packages up to date, both the phpbb base software as well as updates to the mods. Proper support of MODs/Addons/Extensions is really important in going forward.

Please also send a login for the olpc.osuosl.org forum.



Will get you a login account as soon as possible. Should be tonight at the latest, will try and get it sooner (weird issue, don't ask).


As I said previously I figured that olpchelp.org would have a lot of non-technical members, and it does. As a result of this I chose a theme that would be attractive with limited use of graphics. Bandwidth can be an issue on low speed links, so I have used a 30 day expires header on all images to cache them on the client side. The olpc.osuosl.org forum seems to taken a different approach by stripping out most of the the default phpBB subSilver template images. Is there a phpBB theme out there that is judicial in its use of graphics, attractive and could be easily modified to match the OLPC brand / feel?


The low use of images on the site was a fortunate hack. Few images the better, if only for rendering quirks and page loading, but proper cache option settings is a very good thing, and I think we can find a nice middle ground. As you can tell, I don't have the best artistic touch, so ripping out subSilver images in place of CSS background colors where it made sense was just a look-and-feel hack I threw together.

This is an area in where technology, form and function could come together for the relaunch of the combined forums. For me this is very important in attracting membership. It's never just the technology, it's people and process too.


And not necessarily in that order! :)

I'm glad we're starting to find a path to start going forward on. I can get a BETA phpbb3 install for us to work on with a snapshot of our db at the olpc.osuosl.org server (some unique url will be sent out to interested testers in the community) and we can evaluate how it will work for our combined uses with a hands on approach. Tomorrow looks like a good hacking day. Anyone care to join the fun?



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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby Harrison - Schaaffe » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:28 pm

Well it looks like we have two sets of needs.

1) Neighborhood usage: Simple management, fast, low bandwidth. - Possibly punBB
2) Global usage: More feature rich management for global scalability, fast, low bandwidth. - Possibly phpBB

This brings up the question of whether we should consider one forum software product for all needs.

I've loaded punBB on my FC8 system.
  1. It is very simple to use.
  2. It appears to only have six developers. Will security issues be fixed quickly?
  3. There is no way to switch off the memberlist and the visibility of website URLs to guests (SPAM)
  4. Banning users cannot be done using lists, only one user or address at a time.
  5. Plugins are few and primarily for administrators http://punbb.org/downloads.php
  6. Lots of language packs (Primarily european languages)
  7. Lots of themese / styles
  8. There is no way to add a user without registration (not a big thing)
  9. There is no way to set registration defaults (eg. not showing email addresses in your profile, or posts)
  10. Modifications outside of the admin plugins are similar to that of phpBB. To get the feature set of phpBB would be very difficult.
Anyone have personal experience with punBB?

At first glance I'd go with phpBB for the main forum and something punBB-ish for smaller scale deployments.


Regards,

Peter & Diana


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Subject: Re: Going forward with the community forum


Worth throwing out all our options. In my complaining of phpbb3's mod system (via manual core file editting), punbb was pointed out. It has language support (and we can probably connect it to Pootle to get some great mixups going), has some drop-in modules for Administration, at least, and is meant to be lightweight. All good things so far, right?

It has import tools for both vbulletin3 (olpchelp.org) and phpbb2 (olpc.osuosl.org). Worth glancing over. More simple/hackable code is preferable to complex/less hackable code, if we aren't losing any critical features.

http://punbb.org

On Jan 12, 2008 1:33 AM, Harrison - Schaaffe <peter.harrison@bigfoot.com (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have installed a test copy of phpBB3 on a FC8 system at home. The features are improved. They have some importable modules for admin control panel menuing systems, but the rest remain as direct template modifications.


Wonderful. I will be doing the same for a Internet-reachable site this afternoon. Will share the link around...



Agreed.

It now has CAPTCHA built in for registration and guest posting. Hooray! It also has a better admin control panel search utility for finding users, not just by email address.

phpBB3 may be suitable for small installations due to its cost, and the volunteer base to modify its language packs, but it still lacks the ease of modification features of vBulletin. Some simple things like adding a user account from the admin control panel is a modification!

If we were to go with it, I'd strongly recommend minimizing the modifications to the skin/style and header. That way the inevitable upgrades will be much less of a pain to do. There are no phpBB3 styles on phpbb.com, probably because it is so new. The default one, prosilver, would have to modified. http://www.phpbb.com/styles/db/index.php?i=browse&mode=group:phpbb

Does anyone know of anybody who could create a header image with a transparent background for the forums, a gradient tint image and four corners for effects? 10 images max, most of them tiny.

I'd also suggest the following for the new forum:

1. Have email verification as part of the registration process (SPAM)
2. Allow auto subscription to threads by default. This helps to remind people to come back and see if their post has been answered.
3. Don't allow users to edit posts for an indefinite time after they have posted (SPAM)
4. Don't allow users to contact each other by email. (Can send e-mails in phpBB3) It exposes the email address to SPAMmers
5. No guest posting
6. Hide the member list whenever possible (Server load for robots and possible URL SPAM trap)

Put me down as a volunteer for phpBB3 testing on the olpc.osuosl.org test/dev database. Add a forum to it specifically for this thread so feedback and findings can be more easily tracked. How long should the feature evaluation period be? I'll work on creating a phpBB2 export of OLPChelp.org, give me an scp account somewhere and I'll upload it for you to do a test phpBB3 import.




Regards,

Peter & Diana


----- Original Message -----
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To: Harrison - Schaaffe (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Going forward with the community forum






On Jan 11, 2008 11:54 AM, Harrison - Schaaffe <peter.harrison@bigfoot.com (peter.harrison@bigfoot.com)> wrote:
Michael,

I must admit I am very wary of phpBB2, for the reasons I stated, but the feature set with phpBB3 seems greatly improved. I chose vBulletin for the feature set when the open source product at the time couldn't deliver what I needed. I used phpBB2 for about 4 years.


Let me tell you, I've said some not nice things about phpbb2 this month, and don't want to rely on it for more than the time required. A logical upgrade path is welcome, and I would like to learn toward a phpbb3 installation (there is beta work on the mailing list software, which gives us a nice option if we want to take it. The software looks solid without it as well).



I understand the desire to stick with open source for deployment of similar platroms around the world at the local level.

Is there a plan to migrate to phpBB3, or is it in use already? If v3 can do what it promises, then it would be best to upgrade before the forums get too big.



There is not a stated goal, as nearly all of the admin work on the forum has been in my free time, with assistance from good Phil Bordelon and his sysadmin skills to assist along the way. I don't want to flip the switch on the site until we have a full running system (regardless of waht software package we land with. a BETA forum running in tandem for users to stress test with the production system seems like the best way to go. Agreed?


I'm assuming it would import phpBB2 databases, can it import vBulletin natively? If not a vBulletin export to phpBB2 format should be able to be done with a built in utility.


It is very much intended to support upgrades from phpbb2 databases. No experience with vBulletin, but an intermediary step to phpbb2 seems good to me. I've streamlined the backup process, so we can play around with db snapshots and not worry about data loss. Whee!


I'm going to assume phpBB3 will be the planned platform for the unified forum.


I want to echo the concerns overs file-level modifications to install MODs. That really isn't a manageable way to keep software packages up to date, both the phpbb base software as well as updates to the mods. Proper support of MODs/Addons/Extensions is really important in going forward.

Please also send a login for the olpc.osuosl.org forum.



Will get you a login account as soon as possible. Should be tonight at the latest, will try and get it sooner (weird issue, don't ask).


As I said previously I figured that olpchelp.org would have a lot of non-technical members, and it does. As a result of this I chose a theme that would be attractive with limited use of graphics. Bandwidth can be an issue on low speed links, so I have used a 30 day expires header on all images to cache them on the client side. The olpc.osuosl.org forum seems to taken a different approach by stripping out most of the the default phpBB subSilver template images. Is there a phpBB theme out there that is judicial in its use of graphics, attractive and could be easily modified to match the OLPC brand / feel?


The low use of images on the site was a fortunate hack. Few images the better, if only for rendering quirks and page loading, but proper cache option settings is a very good thing, and I think we can find a nice middle ground. As you can tell, I don't have the best artistic touch, so ripping out subSilver images in place of CSS background colors where it made sense was just a look-and-feel hack I threw together.

This is an area in where technology, form and function could come together for the relaunch of the combined forums. For me this is very important in attracting membership. It's never just the technology, it's people and process too.


And not necessarily in that order! :)

I'm glad we're starting to find a path to start going forward on. I can get a BETA phpbb3 install for us to work on with a snapshot of our db at the olpc.osuosl.org server (some unique url will be sent out to interested testers in the community) and we can evaluate how it will work for our combined uses with a hands on approach. Tomorrow looks like a good hacking day. Anyone care to join the fun?



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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby Ivan Krstić » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:50 am

On Jan 12, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Michael Burns wrote:
Worth throwing out all our options.

In the past, I've found Vanilla (http://getvanilla.com/) to be simple
and visually attractive. Not sure if the feature set is a good match
for what you want.

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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby mburns » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:33 pm

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[Olpc-open] Going forward with the community forum

Postby Harrison - Schaaffe » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:01 am

I've installed 5 extension modules relatively trouble free. The FCK editor documentation wasn't accurate, so I tried TinyMCE instead without an issue. The Email subscription module had a file permoission bug, but I managed to get over it.

Very easy to administer. The base installation is feature poor, but the add-on modules are plentiful and easy to add on. A comprehensive an dreproducible list of modules will have to be created to get full functionality.

There also seems to be a phpBB migrator tool: http://lussumo.com/community/discussion/5367/phpbb-migrator/#Comment_70848



Regards,

Peter & Diana


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